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we've got brocking news. president trump announcing his threat on tariffs are indefinitely suspended after reaching an agreement with mexico to them is flow off migrants at the border. shortly after returning home, he says i am pleased to inform you that the united states of
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america has reached a signed agreement with mexico. monday against mexico are hereby indefinitely suspended. mexico in turn has agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of migration to mexico and our southern border. this is being done to greatly reduce or illiminate illegal migrations. what do you think about what's happened here with president trump the mexican tariffs? the tariffs that weren't, i should say? >> well, it doesn't appear that donald trump bought what he wanted. when he started f you recall, he said unless mexico reduces the migrant flow to zero or ends it completely the tariffs will go into effect. perhaps we have to come to
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recognize with this president the statements of presidential authority are no longer staumts of fact but thaw are rhetorical metaphorical statements because obviously nothing is go tag reduce the migrant flows to zero or end the migrant flows. they've essentially agreed to enforce immigration laws more strenuously. they've agreed to talk a few additional measures. it seems as though trump wanted an end to this crisis because it became clear to him there was opposition from republicans in the senate. opposition from businesses that operate across the border and he needed something from the mexicans that would allow him to declare victory and say it crisis is over. and it the mexicans gave him enough to say that but in no way does it reflect what trump's original demand was, which was
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the migrant flows end or go down to zeer oeo. >> do you think it's going to embolden president trump to threaten tariffs in the future? >> i think it's unlikely because mexico is an unusual position. it's a very lopsided relationship. the united states is the richest country in the world. mexico is a developing country on its border. it's an extremely unwise use of that power because you have ugnited an antiamerican nationalism in mexico. mexico is a country which, over the last 30 years the united states has helped transform from an antiamerican radicalest, left-wing country to a country basically very pro-american. even now with the radical, socialist president, the mexicans have bun the grown ups. they have been the ones constantly saying we're pro
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american, we want to solve this. le let's work together. and secondly, it's umport tonight point out the united states has been the leader in the world for free trade for opening up markets, for getting countries to reduce barriers. the r fr the united states to willy nilly be threatening tariffs all the time, which are in complete contravention and violation of the world trade organizations rules is other hypocrisy. just to explain what we are accusing china of on the other side of the world is violating wt o, rules. everything donald trump has done with mexico and by the way with china as well is in complete contradiction and violation of the wto rawls. on one hand say china is breaking the rules while we do it constantly and every country that we have a squabble with. >> i want to read a part of your
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new piece "trump is destroying three decades of hard work with mexico. "radical and resentful towards its powerful neighbors to the north but starting in the 1990s, through the careful efforts of leaders on both sudes of the border, that changed until trump came along. do you still believe president trump has damaged u.s./mexico relations? >> absolutely. if you look at the levels of antiamericanism in mexico. and the same is true in canada, europe. you've gone from countries that were very trusting of american leadership, very respectful of the united states and that support has collapsed. and it's because we are using our power onway that seems bullying, petulant, one sided. and it's totally unnecessary. we have been able to get the mexicans to help the united states on the drug trade.
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we've gotthem to help us on these migrant flows. there's one thing important to point out. these are not mexicans true come into the united states. these are central americans crossing through mexico trying get to the united states. ap applying for asylum. the mexican government is caught in the middle between impoverished central americaned fleeing violence and poverty and the mexicans have been trying to help. mexico is not germany. they do not have the most competent state in the world. so all of this could have been done through cooperation in a way that recognized that mexico was a partner of the united states. but for trump it's important that it always be he wins and you lose. and that's a very unfortunate tendency. because the other side has domestic politics too. whether it's mexico, canada, china. these countries, these leaders
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have to be able to say to their people, their political system i got a good deal. but for trump it's so important that he's seen he with wins, that it force the other side a to be humilyatded. a lot of other countries can dents. if you look at north korea, china, these are much harder countries to bully into accepting your will. >> i want to get to the president's overseas trip meeting with the queen, honoring the 75 th anniversary off d-day. and what does it say about the president that he used it to launch vicious attacks and interfere and lie on the world stage? >> the president of of the united states is unusual. there are other leaders like this but it's unusual that he is both head of state and government. and so when the president
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travelled abroad particularly, usually what you see is him fulfilling the role that head of state. in a sense he is our constitutional monarch as well as being our prime minister. and so generally there's a message of unity, cooperation, of harmony. what trump did was he was the head of state. he was also the head of government. also a partisan political leader, pucking favrts within the party as to who was going to be prime minister. abusing the mayor of london. it felt very undignified and unseemly. it's fine for a local politician, maybe if you're just a prime minister. but the president of the united states represents the country in a way that queen represents the country in great britain. it was unfortunate he didn't seem to recognize that was his
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role and that is his role particularly when he leaves the shore of the united states. >> i also want to get to this new report from the "washington post" that the white house blocked him from submitting written testimony to congress, a warning climate change could be catastrophic because it clash would the president's stance on this issue. they were unable to reach the official and the white house would not comment. but this seems pretty disturbing. >> you know what's sad about it is i actually thought i saw a glimmer of a change in the president's attitude. if you watched his interview with pierce morgan, he asked him whether or not his meeting with prince charles had changed his mind because it seemed as though prince charles took the opportunity of i think it was tea with the president to spend almost the entire time trying to convince donald trump that climate change was real and we
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had a responsibility to deal with it and trump seemed genuinely respectful, almost awe struck by the degree that pruns charles was concerned about this. he's worried about the future, future generations. i thunk ruink it's so addmerabl thinking of the future. he's trying to get him to think not just about the present and his present political advantage but think about the future and his children and grandchildren. all the future generations out there. i actually watched that and thought in some way prince charles had seemed to move the president, at least slightly in understanding this a much larger issue than a naurrrow partisan issue. but you read these reports and see business as usual. >> thank you so much. we'll be watching this weekend.
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president trump announcing tonight that he will not impose his threatened tariffs after mexico agreed to stem the flow off migrants.
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at the southern border. econes earlier today a weak jobs report was released, fuelling suspicions the ramped up trade war may be having an impact on the economy. hello to all. that's the first question, really, catherine. the economy really is the issue. and especially when you look at the pols right now. and this president i'm sure is it's it do or die when it comes to the economy. you think he looked a the jobs number, only 75,000 added unmay and dud that scare him to this deal? >> it canncould have contribute. i thunk a combination of the lackluster jobs and even if the economy were doing quite well and seems to be slowing. 140 jobs groups signed a letter organized by the u.s. chamber of
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commerce and the threat off an eventual confrontation with republicans on the hill who seem to have maybe sort of grown a spine. i think allf of those things put together made trump look at this deal or look at this arson, essentially he set and say you know what, i'll take whatever minor relatively meaningless concession i can get and declare vuktry. victory. >> i said this multiple times. other people have. this is certainly not the first time the observation has been made. >> the president seems to relish drama, making this 11-th hour deal. it's set to hit every american in their wallet. did he have more to lose or maybe us and mexico. >> trump blinked. >> he didn't get much. he folded and he was bluffing. and part of the problem is a lot
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of people in the trump base are hurting economically. you remember back when obama was completed his term. the economy's great and it was healing but there were big pockets of people hurting and it sounded tone deaf. you got trump about to be in the same situation. and lussen, on paper, those numbers are unbelievable. as you know i go to red states and red counties. they're hurting and uncertain. and trump is mocking it worse for them. they don't want to be on welfare, bailout. thaw want be to able to sell their product. you do not put the gun to american farmers. this guy is playing fast and loose with the economic future of his own base. they're hurting and unsurtden and he blinked, folded. but we shouldn't be playing games.
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you want to get in a push and shove with other countries, you dput think it out o, plan it out. i think it was reckless. we ehad to blink but we shouldn't have gone through this. >> i want to pick up on what van says because the tariffs may be avoided for now. but we have been talking to people worried about their family businesses, their livelihoods. and listen, we had on the owner of a car dealership this week. we had on a farmer a couple farmers in the weeks before. they were all extremely concerned in saying this was basically a tax to them and people who could least afford it. negotiating like this does have an effect of putting a lot of people through the ringer. >> not just those who jobs relied on this and people who buy products that come from mexico. but we can all agree that the trade war should never have been stirred in the same pot as
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border security. we can take a sigh of relief. >> say that again. because that has been the question i have asked. is this the right way to do it? go on, sorry. >> these are two separate issues. let's deal with the trade issue on one lane and border security in another. they should not be in the same pot. but tonight we can take comfort in realizing that at least for now the tariff issue is on the back burner. and that's good sign. mexico, until now, has been looking at this, the border security issue as a speck taurt. they're not caught in the middle off this. they're on the front lines. despite the way the president dealt with this issue, he has brought mexico into the conversation and that is the way to deal with this. we need to work with mexico. this is a first step in many steps. tlrs reason people are coming from central america because they're fleeing violence, gangs,
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corruption. we need to work with mexico and continue to fund programs like u.s.a. id that helps to flow stem of gangs. so 23 we can focus on issues such as that, work withing with mexico, that is a good first step. how we got here is not desirebible. but the fact is we've got here and mexico is pulling their share of helping to stem the flow. >> mexico basically just said we're going to try harder. they didn't give trump the main thing that he wanted, which was this safe third country agreement. so it's not clear that trump really got anything out of this. if he wanted to just work with mexico, he could have picked up the phone and not put all of us through all this drama. >> because the basically what
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the tone and tenor has bun that mexico hasn't been doing anything. thaw deport 8,700 -- people. and also mexican authorities have been apprehending more people. that's according to the director off mexico migrant rights and washington. so they have ramped up their efforts with deportation, also with plausing authorities. so esome of what the president is saying, thugreeme the agreem can come to -- >> there's very little there there. which is part of the issue. look, i'm glad we can all breathe a sigh of relief that we don't have to deal with the probably very painful and catastrophic tariffs that could have gone into effect on monday and been ramped up down the road. i don't think there was no damage done. just because we didn't have a
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catastrophe, doesn't mean -- including negotiating ungood faith. we just signed the usmca andent with back on our word and if you're a businessman or woman for that matter and you're thinking about -- which costs money, e money, opening a factory, why would you do that in this market when there's so much uncertainty. maybe you're going to wait 18 months and see if there's going to be a new person in the white house. >> thank you for joining us. i want to talk about this week's episode of your show. if we can. "redemption project." you travel to sacramento to meet joshua gunner johnson, along with a friend who was shot multiple times and let him die.
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left him to die 25 years ago. i want you to listen to this anden the we'll talk. >> being the victim off a violent crime i went down a real dark path. i wanted to go there to murder someone. he pointed a ppistol at me and t me twice. no one can go through that and not be scarred. >> i wanted people to fear me. >> sitting across from the guy that trayed to take your wife and killed your friend. >> if you expect me to forgive you, you have to come to a place in your life where you're honest about what you did. i'm not asking for his forgiveness. >> wow. that's so powerful. talk about these two men and that violent evening. >> both of these gone in a negative drkz in their luf.
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this is 25 years later. and what you're going to see is the power off transformation. we get to the point unoin our country we can't forgive for who tweeted about who. and the reason it's 99% positive is because it's a breath of fresh aero. these people should never forgive each other. it's a powerful journey and we've got to get a place where we start having empathy for each other and people in these situation kz do it, maybe we can too. >> look, you're saying a lot. it's a really powerful impactful show. i'll be watching this weekend. so all new episode with van jones airs sunday night at 9:00. and the fbi ordering the judge to release redacted portions.
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i'll pass. a federal judge ruling tonight that the fbi must unredact more portions off comey's memos about his meetings with president trump. that in response to a lawsuit from cnn. the justice department confirmed all of the mem eos were part of special counsel robert mueller's investigation. he'll be testifying in front of congress come monday in front of the judiciary commit a. thank you so much for jouning us. so this ruling means we'll learn the countries, world leaders m comey mentioned to trump. do you think this is significant? and if so, how significant?
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>> i'm not sure why the redactions were there. if it was a national security reason orr a political embarrassment reason? was he making light of these people? nixon used to do that a lot and a lot of the tapes stay redacted for a long time because of that reason. so i'm not quite sure why dethis didn't happen but it's always good to be transparent. >> also tonight -- i'm sure we can get moreinism augz. we're haring house democrats are adding more hearings like the one you're going to p participate in monday. none with the key witnesses though. i'm sure you would rather hear from mueller or don mcgahn than be up there yourself, am i righting? >> would much prefer. all i can do is add context and perspective.
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i have no hard information to add that's beyond what's already in the mueller report. maybe i can encourage a few people to read it. but i think we need some of of the big witnesses. and i don't know that's going to be very quick and happening. >> interesting. democratic say these hearings will highlight findings in the special counsel's investigation. but do they need to stop talking about investigating and start actually doing something? >> well, i thunk they are, don. the problem is they're reaching a blanket problem in the administration. they don't want anybody to come out oof the blanket. the truduaditional nixon stone l and it's going to take time to
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water this down. they issued a memo that said people dont have to show up. and all this means if you're not working for the government, they're not go tag prosecute you because you have an office of legal counsel memo saying you don't have to show up. >> you're talking about the white house continuing to defy the subpoenas and any congressional requests. is there any way for democrats to stop the stonewalling? >> not really. i went back and looked at this. when nixon did cooperate was early and during the senate watergate committee harings for example, he was more cooperative than when the impeachment proceedings started and that's when it really -- so i'm not sure that those who are encouraging that we get on with imeachment proceeding realize the consequence may be more resistant.
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he'll be less inclined to do anything to provide information. so that's one of the dilemmas we face >> sources are saying that judiciary chairman nadler issued a supoona to mueller within weeks. what is he whatting for? why not subpoena him right now? >> well, he could. they may be in discussions and negotiations about how that testimony might transpire. again let me refer you to history. leon never testified before any committee when he was watergate special proscan kurt. and yet he suplued a lot of information that. >> what do you thunk is the most important thing you can offer on monday? >> i thunk the most important thing is the importance of the documents that they have in front of them right now.
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my next guest says the most significant threat to greatness. egan, who's latest piece is entitled trump destroys american greatness from within. thank you, sur. appreciate you jouning us. you have say that president is corroding and destabilizing the institutions of can democracy and it's one thing to corrupt a politician, it's quite anather to debase the found augations o great democ ras. we've all been living through this. give me some examples.
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>> it's a really important point because you've had a lot off people talking about how individuals have laugs whatever integrity and self worth they've had by their association with trump. as i said it's the osmoss of the species. but my concern is if you broeaka democracy, can you put it back together? the foundations were fairly strong and you could chisel rust, rot. but we're seeing that and it's about five different areas. in the press. in the much -- our competent allotted bureaucracies. you see it with the census bureau where they're trying to force the scitizenship question into the mandate. they're not slowly but quickly can corroded by trumpism.
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and my can concern is it's gone baurntd -- people who have been close have been ruined by that. will they survive long after he's gone? >> who do you think is helping or enabling the president in his efforts? >> everyone knows who's helping or enabling. if you mean the senators who took an oath to uphold the constitution who let it be broken, the powers act. woo saw him using the spending powers specifically for the congress. and we know why their flr aubling. it mitch mcconnell got his tax break. but i'm more concerned now about getting deeper. and rust eventually causes something to break. the national park service. i live in the west.
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on the very first day, second daw of of of trump's presidency, he trued to convict the park service into the this lie of how fwhig crowd was. there's a sign saying the glaciers won't melt because of climate change as have been posted as everyoneicize. if you start getting into the nonpolitical class, then i get really concerned. because how do you go back? it's one thing to cross all these norms, these things, unprecedented things that have never been done before but now you're getting deeper am to the foundational things. >> i want to talk about the courts. so this goes into what you're talking about. they've had numerous cases rejected by courts. the normal with 1 rate for the government is about 70% according to analysts and studies. but as off midjanuary a data
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base at the new york university school of law shows trump's win rate at about 6%. i mean 6% is -- that's really -- >> it's an amazing -- go on. >> and that would tell you that the courts are doing their duty. i wreet piece about a month ago called "revenge of of the coastal elites." but their win rate, they're kicking -- 27: 1 in cases they've brought against theed a mun stragz. the effort bu theed a mun stragz is to delegitimize it. he talks about that's obama judges and this prompted the supreme court -- excuse me justice roberts to say there are no obama judges. what he did with the electorate when he said it was fraudulent
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as an attempt to delegitimize these institutions. while they are losing, trump is losing and the court is holding. and i don't know how many people believe this. the response is the courts are all on one side or the other. i'm dirty. you're dirty. you're either for me or against me. >> i'm out of of time. it's a fascinating article. thank you, sir. >> great. thanks for having me on o, don. (paul) great. another wireless ad. so many of them are full of this complicated, tricky language , don. , don. look. sprint's going to do things differently. and let you decide for yourself. they're offering a new 100% total satisfaction guarantee. try it out and see the savings. if you don't love it, get your money back. see? simple. now sprint's unlimited plan comes with one of the newest phones included for just $35 a month.
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we definitely want to acknowledge. elected first black student body president. his name is kalil green, and guess what? he joins me now to talk about it. welcome, congratulations, by the way. >> thank you so much and thank you for having me on air. >> absolutely. so what kind of meaning does this hold for you, the first black student body president at yale university? >> it's a huge weight. i feel like it's super important to recognize all of the black students who came before me. shoutout to edward bushe one of the first black yale graduates. right now what i feel like i symbolize is the progress we've done in the past but there's also a journey ahead of us. that journey is going to include making sure the campus is more diverse and more inclusive. i'm glad i get the chance to drive that goal on campus. >> you said more diverse and more inclusive. how do you plan to help make that happen? >> so i think one of the things
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that is really important about yale is that we're in a city with a lot of talent and that city is majority people of color so that's new haven, connecticut. so definitely increasing outreach efforts to students in new haven while also making sure the students on campus are representing diversity that we see on the globe today. by making sure that we're in these spaces, that i'm out inspiring students who think they can't get into yale, by making sure our faces are seen and our voices are heard we can inspire people to achieve their dreams and go wherever they want to. if that includes going to yale, then here, or wherever that may be. >> i want to talk issues with you, okay, is that cool? >> yeah. >> issues that are important right now and particularly to students and to young people, okay, so what are your thoughts about how to help create a place where peers and speakers can speak freely on campus while not having to really deal with the
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toxic effects of hate speech? >> so i think it's important to note that school is a place where students have both the opportunity to develop their intellectual side but it's also a place to foster community and i think that on those two tenets it's definitely something i want to focus on, making sure we're able to do both and i think it's a key thing to balance, how are we going to make sure that students are being intellectually challenged, thinking about things in ways they haven't before but that they're also getting the experience of college, or they're bonding with people, meeting friends and then developing these lifelong relationships that will help in the future and that really encompass a full yale experience and a full college experience. >> you realize you also have to build up the tough side of your personality, right, because people -- >> yeah. >> when you're in the real world people say and do things all the time that you may find offensive. part of that is maybe speech that you find offensive as well. >> yeah. i definitely think that the real
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world is a place where there's almost anything you can encounter and i do think that having a space where you're able to kind of build your community and foster relationships doesn't necessarily mean that you won't be ready for stuff that goes on in the real world. it's like you have a home, i feel like, and at your house you probably don't want to deal with things that you're going to encounter out on the road and i think having places and making sure that our community is strong doesn't necessarily mean that you can't be prepared for what's to come in the real world. >> let's talk about next fall, next fall you'll be a junior. >> yes, finally. >> right. so you've got plenty of college left. >> yes, two years. >> what do you want to do? what are your plans for the future? >> so right now i'm looking into what professional school i want to go into. i think that's the next big step that's almost guaranteed at this point. so i mentioned i might go into business school or law school. right now i'm just deciding
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where my interests lie and then after that i think that's the next step in the journey and that will catapult me into the future. of course law school would be a good steppingstone towards a public office position and then business school would be a good steppingstone towards maybe running my own company one day. >> wow, don't forget about us when you're a big boss. >> definitely not. >> so hey, i was at yale a couple weeks ago and i didn't get to see you, right, you weren't there. did you get a chance to hear me speak? >> i'm on summer break right now. >> okay, all right, so i wasn't important enough for you to show back up. i'm kidding. thank you so much. i really appreciate you joining us and congratulations to you and go out and continue to do good things. thank you. >> thank you so much, thank you. we'll be right back. or pso, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable,
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